Comments on: Clicking Noise from Brakes on 97 es300 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:06:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2/comment-page-1#comment-12549 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:09:16 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2#comment-12549 John, there's no press fit. Use the bolts to loosen the discs.   Frank <br /> "john" <theschwabs...@excite.com> wrote in message <br /> <br />news:7c57d73e.0208271034.691acd04@posting.google.com... <br /> <p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>> I didn't see the TSB for the Lexus, although I heard that other <br /> > Toyotas had them issued.  I don't like the idea of grease in that area <br /> > though. <br /> <p>> Am I correct about the removal of the rotors.  Do they tend to get <br /> > 'stuck', or is there a slight press fit.  I am going to run two bolts <br /> > into the existing (empty) threaded holes and see if that will pull it <br /> > out. <br /> </p><p>> Any ideas? <br /> <br /> </p> John, there’s no press fit. Use the bolts to loosen the discs.   Frank
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> I didn’t see the TSB for the Lexus, although I heard that other
> Toyotas had them issued.  I don’t like the idea of grease in that area
> though.

> Am I correct about the removal of the rotors.  Do they tend to get
> ‘stuck’, or is there a slight press fit.  I am going to run two bolts
> into the existing (empty) threaded holes and see if that will pull it
> out.

> Any ideas?

]]> By: admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2/comment-page-1#comment-12547 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:09:15 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2#comment-12547 Mischa, I dont think the grease, or lack of it, affects the wear of other <br /> parts that much. It's mostly a noise issue.  Frank <br /> "Mischa Uppelschoten" <mup...@hotmail.nozpam.com> wrote in message <br /> <br />news:ak6an9$icd$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net... <br /> <p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>> Frank, other than the noise, is this a problem? Will any part wear out <br /> > sooner without applying this grease? <br /> > Thanks, <br /> > Mischa. <br /> <br /> Mischa, I dont think the grease, or lack of it, affects the wear of other
parts that much. It’s mostly a noise issue.  Frank
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> Frank, other than the noise, is this a problem? Will any part wear out
> sooner without applying this grease?
> Thanks,
> Mischa.

]]> By: admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2/comment-page-1#comment-12548 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:09:15 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2#comment-12548 I didn't see the TSB for the Lexus, although I heard that other <br /> Toyotas had them issued.  I don't like the idea of grease in that area <br /> though. <br /> <p>Am I correct about the removal of the rotors.  Do they tend to get <br /> 'stuck', or is there a slight press fit.  I am going to run two bolts <br /> into the existing (empty) threaded holes and see if that will pull it <br /> out. <br /> </p><p>Any ideas? <br /> </p> I didn’t see the TSB for the Lexus, although I heard that other
Toyotas had them issued.  I don’t like the idea of grease in that area
though.

Am I correct about the removal of the rotors.  Do they tend to get
‘stuck’, or is there a slight press fit.  I am going to run two bolts
into the existing (empty) threaded holes and see if that will pull it
out.

Any ideas?

]]> By: admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2/comment-page-1#comment-12546 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:09:14 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2#comment-12546 Frank, other than the noise, is this a problem? Will any part wear out <br /> sooner without applying this grease? <br /> Thanks, <br /> Mischa. <br /> Frank, other than the noise, is this a problem? Will any part wear out
sooner without applying this grease?
Thanks,
Mischa.

]]> By: admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2/comment-page-1#comment-12545 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:09:13 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2#comment-12545 There is a service bulletin that deals with this issue. The problem is brake <br /> pads, and pad shims shifting when you change direction. Toyota makes a <br /> grease thats put on the pad shims that clears up the problem  for awhile. <br /> Frank <br /> "john" <theschwabs...@excite.com> wrote in message <br /> <br />news:7c57d73e.0208191013.4fa9ce47@posting.google.com... <br /> <p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>> The rotors seem to be warped (going by driving experience rather than <br /> > measurement)  During the removal process I noticed there were no <br /> > screws holding the rotor to the hub.  In my experience I have always <br /> > seen a couple of set screws holding the rotor in place.  These have <br /> > two tapped holes with nothing in them.  My guess at this point is it <br /> > is a slight press fit and the tapped holes are used for removal. <br /> > Sound right? <br /> <p>> It also helped to formulate a theory as to why the brakes make noise <br /> > whenever the car switches directions (forward to reverse and vice <br /> > versa).  Toyota states this loud clicking noise is a normal noise for <br /> > many of there models.  The holes in the rotor where the studs off of <br /> > the hub come through are a bit bigger than the studs, leaving room for <br /> > movement.  Looking at the rotor, you see the rotor laying against the <br /> > studs in one direction.  Put the car in reverse, hit the brakes and it <br /> > hits the studs on the other side.  Looks like very poor engineering. <br /> > I have never seen a setup like this, although I mostly work on Hondas. <br /> >  But I hate hearing dealerships say a noise like this is normal.  It's <br /> > not normal, just deemed acceptable by the manufacturer and it <br /> > shouldn't be on a 35K car or any car for that matter. <br /> </p><p>> Anyone know more about this.  I have met others with avalons and <br /> > camry's and es300's which make the exact same noise.  Search on the <br /> > web for other models and it looks like half of toyota's/lexus's line <br /> > suffers from this problem. <br /> <br /> </p> There is a service bulletin that deals with this issue. The problem is brake
pads, and pad shims shifting when you change direction. Toyota makes a
grease thats put on the pad shims that clears up the problem  for awhile.
Frank
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> The rotors seem to be warped (going by driving experience rather than
> measurement)  During the removal process I noticed there were no
> screws holding the rotor to the hub.  In my experience I have always
> seen a couple of set screws holding the rotor in place.  These have
> two tapped holes with nothing in them.  My guess at this point is it
> is a slight press fit and the tapped holes are used for removal.
> Sound right?

> It also helped to formulate a theory as to why the brakes make noise
> whenever the car switches directions (forward to reverse and vice
> versa).  Toyota states this loud clicking noise is a normal noise for
> many of there models.  The holes in the rotor where the studs off of
> the hub come through are a bit bigger than the studs, leaving room for
> movement.  Looking at the rotor, you see the rotor laying against the
> studs in one direction.  Put the car in reverse, hit the brakes and it
> hits the studs on the other side.  Looks like very poor engineering.
> I have never seen a setup like this, although I mostly work on Hondas.
>  But I hate hearing dealerships say a noise like this is normal.  It’s
> not normal, just deemed acceptable by the manufacturer and it
> shouldn’t be on a 35K car or any car for that matter.

> Anyone know more about this.  I have met others with avalons and
> camry’s and es300′s which make the exact same noise.  Search on the
> web for other models and it looks like half of toyota’s/lexus’s line
> suffers from this problem.

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