Comments for Lexus cars and trucks http://www.lexusautosclub.com Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:09:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 Comment on Clicking Noise from Brakes on 97 es300 by admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2/comment-page-1#comment-12549 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:09:16 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2#comment-12549 John, there's no press fit. Use the bolts to loosen the discs.   Frank <br /> "john" <theschwabs...@excite.com> wrote in message <br /> <br />news:7c57d73e.0208271034.691acd04@posting.google.com... <br /> <p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>> I didn't see the TSB for the Lexus, although I heard that other <br /> > Toyotas had them issued.  I don't like the idea of grease in that area <br /> > though. <br /> <p>> Am I correct about the removal of the rotors.  Do they tend to get <br /> > 'stuck', or is there a slight press fit.  I am going to run two bolts <br /> > into the existing (empty) threaded holes and see if that will pull it <br /> > out. <br /> </p><p>> Any ideas? <br /> <br /> </p> John, there’s no press fit. Use the bolts to loosen the discs.   Frank
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> I didn’t see the TSB for the Lexus, although I heard that other
> Toyotas had them issued.  I don’t like the idea of grease in that area
> though.

> Am I correct about the removal of the rotors.  Do they tend to get
> ‘stuck’, or is there a slight press fit.  I am going to run two bolts
> into the existing (empty) threaded holes and see if that will pull it
> out.

> Any ideas?

]]> Comment on Clicking Noise from Brakes on 97 es300 by admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2/comment-page-1#comment-12548 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:09:15 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2#comment-12548 I didn't see the TSB for the Lexus, although I heard that other <br /> Toyotas had them issued.  I don't like the idea of grease in that area <br /> though. <br /> <p>Am I correct about the removal of the rotors.  Do they tend to get <br /> 'stuck', or is there a slight press fit.  I am going to run two bolts <br /> into the existing (empty) threaded holes and see if that will pull it <br /> out. <br /> </p><p>Any ideas? <br /> </p> I didn’t see the TSB for the Lexus, although I heard that other
Toyotas had them issued.  I don’t like the idea of grease in that area
though.

Am I correct about the removal of the rotors.  Do they tend to get
‘stuck’, or is there a slight press fit.  I am going to run two bolts
into the existing (empty) threaded holes and see if that will pull it
out.

Any ideas?

]]> Comment on Clicking Noise from Brakes on 97 es300 by admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2/comment-page-1#comment-12547 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:09:15 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2#comment-12547 Mischa, I dont think the grease, or lack of it, affects the wear of other <br /> parts that much. It's mostly a noise issue.  Frank <br /> "Mischa Uppelschoten" <mup...@hotmail.nozpam.com> wrote in message <br /> <br />news:ak6an9$icd$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net... <br /> <p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>> Frank, other than the noise, is this a problem? Will any part wear out <br /> > sooner without applying this grease? <br /> > Thanks, <br /> > Mischa. <br /> <br /> Mischa, I dont think the grease, or lack of it, affects the wear of other
parts that much. It’s mostly a noise issue.  Frank
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> Frank, other than the noise, is this a problem? Will any part wear out
> sooner without applying this grease?
> Thanks,
> Mischa.

]]> Comment on Clicking Noise from Brakes on 97 es300 by admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2/comment-page-1#comment-12546 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:09:14 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2#comment-12546 Frank, other than the noise, is this a problem? Will any part wear out <br /> sooner without applying this grease? <br /> Thanks, <br /> Mischa. <br /> Frank, other than the noise, is this a problem? Will any part wear out
sooner without applying this grease?
Thanks,
Mischa.

]]> Comment on Clicking Noise from Brakes on 97 es300 by admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2/comment-page-1#comment-12545 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:09:13 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/clicking-noise-from-brakes-on-97-es300-2#comment-12545 There is a service bulletin that deals with this issue. The problem is brake <br /> pads, and pad shims shifting when you change direction. Toyota makes a <br /> grease thats put on the pad shims that clears up the problem  for awhile. <br /> Frank <br /> "john" <theschwabs...@excite.com> wrote in message <br /> <br />news:7c57d73e.0208191013.4fa9ce47@posting.google.com... <br /> <p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>> The rotors seem to be warped (going by driving experience rather than <br /> > measurement)  During the removal process I noticed there were no <br /> > screws holding the rotor to the hub.  In my experience I have always <br /> > seen a couple of set screws holding the rotor in place.  These have <br /> > two tapped holes with nothing in them.  My guess at this point is it <br /> > is a slight press fit and the tapped holes are used for removal. <br /> > Sound right? <br /> <p>> It also helped to formulate a theory as to why the brakes make noise <br /> > whenever the car switches directions (forward to reverse and vice <br /> > versa).  Toyota states this loud clicking noise is a normal noise for <br /> > many of there models.  The holes in the rotor where the studs off of <br /> > the hub come through are a bit bigger than the studs, leaving room for <br /> > movement.  Looking at the rotor, you see the rotor laying against the <br /> > studs in one direction.  Put the car in reverse, hit the brakes and it <br /> > hits the studs on the other side.  Looks like very poor engineering. <br /> > I have never seen a setup like this, although I mostly work on Hondas. <br /> >  But I hate hearing dealerships say a noise like this is normal.  It's <br /> > not normal, just deemed acceptable by the manufacturer and it <br /> > shouldn't be on a 35K car or any car for that matter. <br /> </p><p>> Anyone know more about this.  I have met others with avalons and <br /> > camry's and es300's which make the exact same noise.  Search on the <br /> > web for other models and it looks like half of toyota's/lexus's line <br /> > suffers from this problem. <br /> <br /> </p> There is a service bulletin that deals with this issue. The problem is brake
pads, and pad shims shifting when you change direction. Toyota makes a
grease thats put on the pad shims that clears up the problem  for awhile.
Frank
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> The rotors seem to be warped (going by driving experience rather than
> measurement)  During the removal process I noticed there were no
> screws holding the rotor to the hub.  In my experience I have always
> seen a couple of set screws holding the rotor in place.  These have
> two tapped holes with nothing in them.  My guess at this point is it
> is a slight press fit and the tapped holes are used for removal.
> Sound right?

> It also helped to formulate a theory as to why the brakes make noise
> whenever the car switches directions (forward to reverse and vice
> versa).  Toyota states this loud clicking noise is a normal noise for
> many of there models.  The holes in the rotor where the studs off of
> the hub come through are a bit bigger than the studs, leaving room for
> movement.  Looking at the rotor, you see the rotor laying against the
> studs in one direction.  Put the car in reverse, hit the brakes and it
> hits the studs on the other side.  Looks like very poor engineering.
> I have never seen a setup like this, although I mostly work on Hondas.
>  But I hate hearing dealerships say a noise like this is normal.  It’s
> not normal, just deemed acceptable by the manufacturer and it
> shouldn’t be on a 35K car or any car for that matter.

> Anyone know more about this.  I have met others with avalons and
> camry’s and es300′s which make the exact same noise.  Search on the
> web for other models and it looks like half of toyota’s/lexus’s line
> suffers from this problem.

]]> Comment on IS 17" alloy wheel damage by admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/is-17-alloy-wheel-damage-2/comment-page-1#comment-12544 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:08:54 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/is-17-alloy-wheel-damage-2#comment-12544 In the US, you can get the wheels repaired for about $125 each... Like New. <br /> You know the dealer can get them done cheaper so it should not be worth more <br /> than about $400 on the value of the trade... <br /> <p>"James" <jp...@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message <br /> <br />news:ajrd3v$572$1@knossos.btinternet.com... <br /> </p><p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>> Last weekend I took my '99 IS200 Sport to be valued ready for a Sept 1st <br /> > trade in. The salesman said that they'd need to do some work to repair the <br /> > damage I'd done to the alloys. Despite being as careful as I could over <br /> the <br /> > past three years and 40,000 miles not one rim was 100% intact and had been <br /> > kerbed at some point. <br /> <p>> When the original Michelin Pilots wore out on the front, I had them <br /> replaced <br /> > with a pair of BF Goodrich tyres which coincidentally had a protruding <br /> ring <br /> > of rubber which is supposed to help to protect the rims. I chose the BFGs <br /> > because they were £30 cheaper each and like many of the current Formula 1 <br /> > teams, I haven't enjoyed my time on Michelin rubber. Obviously it was too <br /> > late in my case to see whether the BFGs would have helped to counter my <br /> > obviously inept driving style, but I wondered if any of you have any <br /> > experiences/thoughts on the matter. <br /> </p><p>> I didn't ask how much the damage to the rims had reduced my car's trade-in <br /> > value, but I suppose I can find this out when I pick the new one up. It <br /> did <br /> > get me wondering whether there are companies out there in the UK who can <br /> > restore alloy wheels. Alternatively, is there anything the average owner <br /> can <br /> > do, apart from giving kerbs a very wide berth?! <br /> </p><p>> Cheers, <br /> > James <br /> <br /> </p> In the US, you can get the wheels repaired for about $125 each… Like New.
You know the dealer can get them done cheaper so it should not be worth more
than about $400 on the value of the trade…

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> Last weekend I took my ’99 IS200 Sport to be valued ready for a Sept 1st
> trade in. The salesman said that they’d need to do some work to repair the
> damage I’d done to the alloys. Despite being as careful as I could over
the
> past three years and 40,000 miles not one rim was 100% intact and had been
> kerbed at some point.

> When the original Michelin Pilots wore out on the front, I had them
replaced
> with a pair of BF Goodrich tyres which coincidentally had a protruding
ring
> of rubber which is supposed to help to protect the rims. I chose the BFGs
> because they were £30 cheaper each and like many of the current Formula 1
> teams, I haven’t enjoyed my time on Michelin rubber. Obviously it was too
> late in my case to see whether the BFGs would have helped to counter my
> obviously inept driving style, but I wondered if any of you have any
> experiences/thoughts on the matter.

> I didn’t ask how much the damage to the rims had reduced my car’s trade-in
> value, but I suppose I can find this out when I pick the new one up. It
did
> get me wondering whether there are companies out there in the UK who can
> restore alloy wheels. Alternatively, is there anything the average owner
can
> do, apart from giving kerbs a very wide berth?!

> Cheers,
> James

]]> Comment on IS 17" alloy wheel damage by admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/is-17-alloy-wheel-damage-2/comment-page-1#comment-12543 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:08:53 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/is-17-alloy-wheel-damage-2#comment-12543 <p>"James" <jp...@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message <br /> <br />news:ajrd3v$572$1@knossos.btinternet.com... <br /> </p><p>> I didn't ask how much the damage to the rims had reduced my car's trade-in <br /> > value, but I suppose I can find this out when I pick the new one up. It <br /> did <br /> > get me wondering whether there are companies out there in the UK who can <br /> > restore alloy wheels. Alternatively, is there anything the average owner <br /> can <br /> > do, apart from giving kerbs a very wide berth?! <br /> <br />Interesting...my wife just banged up one of our Sportcross rims.  Today in <br /> the Chicago Tribune I saw the following article <br /> http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/printedition/chi-0208190138a... <br /> ory and it appears you can get them repaired.  I haven't tried it myself, <br /> but, I am considering it.  It does look bad, but, that's it. <br /> </p> "James" <jp…@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message

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> I didn’t ask how much the damage to the rims had reduced my car’s trade-in
> value, but I suppose I can find this out when I pick the new one up. It
did
> get me wondering whether there are companies out there in the UK who can
> restore alloy wheels. Alternatively, is there anything the average owner
can
> do, apart from giving kerbs a very wide berth?!

Interesting…my wife just banged up one of our Sportcross rims.  Today in
the Chicago Tribune I saw the following article
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/printedition/chi-0208190138a...
ory and it appears you can get them repaired.  I haven’t tried it myself,
but, I am considering it.  It does look bad, but, that’s it.

]]> Comment on GPS Install by admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/gps-install/comment-page-1#comment-12542 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:08:16 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/gps-install#comment-12542 <p>"Borman" <NOS...@NOSPAM.NOSPAM> wrote in message <br /> <br />news:0pd3muob4ofpumi5i91kaqjoe24jpjvg7o@4ax.com... <br /> </p><p>> As an experiment, I suggest you go to a BMW dealerchip and look around <br /> > and see what is the avarage milage on the older models. Then through a <br /> > simple statistical calcualtion,find probability density function and <br /> > find the error deviation after comparing these milages to an avarge <br /> > miles drive per year on an avarge vehicle.....if you dont want to do <br /> > the math, just think.. is it possible that MOST of the cars on the <br /> > lost drive less then 10K a year for the past say 5-10 years. <br /> > Statisticaly it is imposible. <br /> <br />What was that old saying...there's lies, damm lies, and statistics?  In my <br /> home, I just sold my 93 Maxima, it had less than 50k miles.  Our other older <br /> car is a 94 Geo, with less than 30k miles.  Statistically this is <br /> impossible!   ;-)  My guess is that when the dealers get a good low mileage <br /> car, they keep those for resale.  The other are shipped off to a resaler. <br /> </p> "Borman" <NOS…@NOSPAM.NOSPAM> wrote in message

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> As an experiment, I suggest you go to a BMW dealerchip and look around
> and see what is the avarage milage on the older models. Then through a
> simple statistical calcualtion,find probability density function and
> find the error deviation after comparing these milages to an avarge
> miles drive per year on an avarge vehicle…..if you dont want to do
> the math, just think.. is it possible that MOST of the cars on the
> lost drive less then 10K a year for the past say 5-10 years.
> Statisticaly it is imposible.

What was that old saying…there’s lies, damm lies, and statistics?  In my
home, I just sold my 93 Maxima, it had less than 50k miles.  Our other older
car is a 94 Geo, with less than 30k miles.  Statistically this is
impossible!   ;-)  My guess is that when the dealers get a good low mileage
car, they keep those for resale.  The other are shipped off to a resaler.

]]> Comment on GPS Install by admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/gps-install/comment-page-1#comment-12541 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:08:15 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/gps-install#comment-12541 I thought so too until I found out that close to 80% of used cars on <br /> the market happen to have false milage on their odometers and "milage <br /> calibration" is practiced widly, espacialy at the luxusy dealerships. <br /> BMW being the #1 altered car. Infact BWM, unoficialy of course, went <br /> back to making odomiter chips that can be easily modified after they <br /> have experinced a huge value loss after introducing new chips that <br /> could not be altered without evidence. As strange as it sounds it is <br /> better for them to let the dealers alter the miles since it adds to <br /> the residual value. Othervice we would have a market flooded with cars <br /> that have 200K on the odometer...would you buy a car like that? <br /> <p>As an experiment, I suggest you go to a BMW dealerchip and look around <br /> and see what is the avarage milage on the older models. Then through a <br /> simple statistical calcualtion,find probability density function and <br /> find the error deviation after comparing these milages to an avarge <br /> miles drive per year on an avarge vehicle.....if you dont want to do <br /> the math, just think.. is it possible that MOST of the cars on the <br /> lost drive less then 10K a year for the past say 5-10 years. <br /> Statisticaly it is imposible. <br /> </p><p>On 20 Aug 2002 01:45:38 GMT, Dave <dvdtrs...@bluegreenplanet.net> <br /> wrote: <br /> </p><p>- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -</p>>Caveat Emptor <br /> <br /> I thought so too until I found out that close to 80% of used cars on
the market happen to have false milage on their odometers and "milage
calibration" is practiced widly, espacialy at the luxusy dealerships.
BMW being the #1 altered car. Infact BWM, unoficialy of course, went
back to making odomiter chips that can be easily modified after they
have experinced a huge value loss after introducing new chips that
could not be altered without evidence. As strange as it sounds it is
better for them to let the dealers alter the miles since it adds to
the residual value. Othervice we would have a market flooded with cars
that have 200K on the odometer…would you buy a car like that?

As an experiment, I suggest you go to a BMW dealerchip and look around
and see what is the avarage milage on the older models. Then through a
simple statistical calcualtion,find probability density function and
find the error deviation after comparing these milages to an avarge
miles drive per year on an avarge vehicle…..if you dont want to do
the math, just think.. is it possible that MOST of the cars on the
lost drive less then 10K a year for the past say 5-10 years.
Statisticaly it is imposible.

On 20 Aug 2002 01:45:38 GMT, Dave <dvdtrs…@bluegreenplanet.net>
wrote:

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>Caveat Emptor

]]> Comment on GPS Install by admin http://www.lexusautosclub.com/gps-install/comment-page-1#comment-12540 admin Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:07:56 +0000 http://www.lexusautosclub.com/gps-install#comment-12540 dans l'article cde3mus0l7db7orcb3uor8boa3vb5d6...@4ax.com, Borman à <br /> NOS...@NOSPAM.NOSPAM a écrit le 20/08/02 5:39 : <br /> <p>> Does anyone know if I can install the new DVD's myself? <br /> </p><p>> And how it can be done. <br /> <br />Yes, if it's the same than the sportcross one, just have to put the ignition <br /> on first position, go to your DVD lector (generally near the repair wheel on <br /> the right), open the door and the DVD will come out, then insert the new <br /> one. <br /> As I read before, you just earn 50 bucks doing this ;-) <br /> </p><p>BR <br /> Vince <br /> </p> dans l’article cde3mus0l7db7orcb3uor8boa3vb5d6…@4ax.com, Borman à
NOS…@NOSPAM.NOSPAM a écrit le 20/08/02 5:39 :

> Does anyone know if I can install the new DVD’s myself?

> And how it can be done.

Yes, if it’s the same than the sportcross one, just have to put the ignition
on first position, go to your DVD lector (generally near the repair wheel on
the right), open the door and the DVD will come out, then insert the new
one.
As I read before, you just earn 50 bucks doing this ;-)

BR
Vince

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