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> This isn’t new, either, suggesting that Toyota’s troubles may be more
> of a developing pattern than a one-time aberration. Two years ago,
> before two-thirds of Detroit’s automakers were tempered by the fires
> of bankruptcy, the editor of the ostensibly "Japanese-loving" Consumer
> Reports apologized to readers for recommending the problem-plagued
> Camry V-6.
> He also said the magazine had decided new Toyota models could no
> longer be given the benefit of the doubt — or its prized
> "recommended" label. And Toyota’s V-8 powered Tundra four-wheel drive
> pickup was labeled "unreliable" by the magazine, the unofficial Bible
> to discerning car and truck buyers.
I always take everything Consumer Reports says with a grain of salt.
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:12:33 -0800, john wrote:
> November 26, 2009
> Howes: Toyota not looking so shiny now DANIEL HOWES
> Is the Toyota Motor Corp. juggernaut losing its conqueror-of-the-world
> mojo?
> Because if it was a Detroit automaker that was recalling 4.26 million
> vehicles to repair accelerator problems, or if it was a Detroit automaker
> that had broken its historic no-plant-closings pledge, or if it was a
> Detroit automaker that had recalled more vehicles (2.38 million) in 2005
> than it sold in the United States that year (2.26 million), the answer
> would be an emphatic yes.
But we’re not dealing with a North American manufacturer that would
correct this mistake, and then make another in next year’s model.
We’re dealing with a Japanese company where heads will roll for ‘losing
face’. And that is now, again, family run. A member of the Toyoda family
has already stepped in and replaced the President of Toyota Motor, who was
asked to step down due to Toyota’s recent quality problems, and has
probably already committed Hari Kari.
If we were talking about General Motors, yeah, I could see the speculation
in the article taking place. But we’re talking about a Japanese company
that is now interested in ‘saving face’, regaining their reputation, and
will work hard to do so. General Motors appeased their shareholders by
selling the cheapest product they could get away with for the highest
price they could charge, and it ran them into bankruptcy. Do not expect
the same from Toyota. They make the shareholders happy by making the
*Customers* happy and wanting to buy their cars.
You really don’t know a whole lot about this, so please stop posting your
Bullshit in the Toyota group. Thanks.
In article <d9b14ab6-de86-4e4b-9b0f-b323f98f7…@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, phaeton <blahbleh…@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> This isn’t new, either, suggesting that Toyota’s troubles may be more
>> of a developing pattern than a one-time aberration. Two years ago,
>> before two-thirds of Detroit’s automakers were tempered by the fires
>> of bankruptcy, the editor of the ostensibly "Japanese-loving" Consumer
>> Reports apologized to readers for recommending the problem-plagued
>> Camry V-6.
>> He also said the magazine had decided new Toyota models could no
>> longer be given the benefit of the doubt — or its prized
>> "recommended" label. And Toyota’s V-8 powered Tundra four-wheel drive
>> pickup was labeled "unreliable" by the magazine, the unofficial Bible
>> to discerning car and truck buyers.
>I always take everything Consumer Reports says with a grain of salt.
yeah, a 50 mile square grain.
On Nov 26, 12:12 pm, john <johngd…@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> November 26, 2009
> Howes: Toyota not looking so shiny now
> DANIEL HOWES
> Is the Toyota Motor Corp. juggernaut losing its conqueror-of-the-world
> mojo?
> Because if it was a Detroit automaker that was recalling 4.26 million
> vehicles to repair accelerator problems, or if it was a Detroit
> automaker that had broken its historic no-plant-closings pledge, or if
> it was a Detroit automaker that had recalled more vehicles (2.38
> million) in 2005 than it sold in the United States that year (2.26
> million), the answer would be an emphatic yes.
> The answer also would be yes if Toyota, an earnings powerhouse,
> suddenly stopped minting cash — notwithstanding the three-month
> period ended Sept. 30 — and was on track to lose billions more this
> year. The answer would be yes if its exponential market share gains
> suddenly slowed, or if its national rival, Honda Motor Co., kept
> delivering profits despite a global auto recession and its new South
> Korean rival, Hyundai-Kia, continued to grab precious U.S. market
> share.
> News flash: The men running Toyota appear to be mortal. They overreach
> and make mistakes. Their vehicles are not flawless. Their engineers
> cut corners, at least in ways that garner the attention of the
> National Highway Traffic Administration. Their Camry no longer is the
> undisputed king of midsize cars, now that rivals Ford Motor Co. and
> even General Motors Co. are proving they can produce world-class
> metal, too.
> This isn’t new, either, suggesting that Toyota’s troubles may be more
> of a developing pattern than a one-time aberration. Two years ago,
> before two-thirds of Detroit’s automakers were tempered by the fires
> of bankruptcy, the editor of the ostensibly "Japanese-loving" Consumer
> Reports apologized to readers for recommending the problem-plagued
> Camry V-6.
> He also said the magazine had decided new Toyota models could no
> longer be given the benefit of the doubt — or its prized
> "recommended" label. And Toyota’s V-8 powered Tundra four-wheel drive
> pickup was labeled "unreliable" by the magazine, the unofficial Bible
> to discerning car and truck buyers.
> Two years before that, the global industry’s gold standard for quality
> recalled more vehicles in the United States than it sold in the United
> States. There have been running customer complaints about sludge in
> its engines, and, more recently, growing federal skepticism over
> Toyota’s response to the unintended acceleration probe.
> ‘Grasping for salvation’
> Infallible they aren’t, as CEO Akio Toyoda, a scion of the founding
> family, conceded last month. Toyota, he said, is nearing "capitulation
> to irrelevance or death" and is "grasping for salvation." He also said
> the still cash-rich automaker has grown too arrogant on "the hubris
> born of success" and the "undisciplined pursuit of more."
> Even adjusting for the Japanese cultural proclivity for excessive
> apology freighted with humility, those are stunning statements coming
> from a Toyota CEO. Considering that his name, save one letter, is on
> the proverbial building, the admissions are even more revealing.
> Which means what, exactly?
> That the Great Recession, the accelerant that pushed GM and Chrysler
> Group LLC into bankruptcy and fueled Ford’s evident resurgence, also
> is rebalancing the automotive landscape in ways that seemed impossible
> just a few years ago.
> Fresh from federally induced bankruptcy, GM’s labor costs are
> competitive; its product portfolio is solid; its footprint in
> developing markets is impressive; and its debt load is enviably small,
> making it a potentially formidable competitor able to generate cash
> once the worst of the auto sales depression passes.
> Ford arguably is building its best vehicles in a generation, if not a
> whole lot longer. The Blue Oval is booking monthly gains in its share
> of the U.S. market, an accomplishment seemingly reserved exclusively
> for Toyota not too long ago.
> And Toyota’s position as the undisputed quality leader and industry
> juggernaut clearly is in jeopardy. That’s change you can believe in.
> dcho…@detnews.com">dcho…@detnews.com Daniel Howes’ column runs
> Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays
> © Copyright 2009 The Detroit News. All rights reserved.
> http://detnews.com/article/20091126/OPINION03/911260331
I think toyota’s biggest mistake is letting americans go anywhere near
where they build and design cars. American workers screwed up american
cars and, for that matter, America.
I don’t have any employees for a reason. My business would be dead in
18 months. I could hire several people and expand my business
exponetially if I wanted. I just have no desire to do so in this
cesspool.
Hopefully toyota will go back to building everything off shore. My J
vin camry won’t die in spite of the abuse I put it though.
Wasn’t he a sports announcer?
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el…@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
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> In article <pan.2009.11.26.18.51.48.986…@e86.GTS>,
> Hachiroku ÉnÉ`ÉçÉN <Tru…@e86.GTS> wrote:
>> A member of the Toyoda family
>> has already stepped in and replaced the President of Toyota Motor, who
>> was
>> asked to step down due to Toyota’s recent quality problems, and has
>> probably already committed Hari Kari.
> He’s dead.
> Maybe you mean harakiri?
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:05:20 -0500, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <pan.2009.11.26.18.51.48.986…@e86.GTS>,
> Hachiroku ÉnÉ`ÉçÉN <Tru…@e86.GTS> wrote:
>> A member of the Toyoda family
>> has already stepped in and replaced the President of Toyota Motor, who
>> was asked to step down due to Toyota’s recent quality problems, and has
>> probably already committed Hari Kari.
> He’s dead.
> Maybe you mean harakiri?
ha⋅ra-ki⋅ri
/ˈhɑrəˈkɪəri, ˈhærə-, ˈhæri-/ [hahr-uh-keer-ee, har-uh-,
har-ee-] –noun
1. Also called seppuku. ceremonial suicide by ripping open the abdomen
with a dagger or knife: formerly practiced in Japan by members of the
warrior class when disgraced or sentenced to death. 2. suicide or any
suicidal action; a self-destructive act: political hara-kiri.
Also, hari kari.
On Nov 26, 5:25 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru…@e86.GTS> wrote:
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> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:05:20 -0500, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> > In article <pan.2009.11.26.18.51.48.986…@e86.GTS>,
> > Hachiroku ÉnÉ`ÉçÉN <Tru…@e86.GTS> wrote:
> >> A member of the Toyoda family
> >> has already stepped in and replaced the President of Toyota Motor, who
> >> was asked to step down due to Toyota’s recent quality problems, and has
> >> probably already committed Hari Kari.
> > He’s dead.
> > Maybe you mean harakiri?
> ha⋅ra-ki⋅ri
> /ˈhɑrəˈkɪəri, ˈhærə-, ˈhæri-/ [hahr-uh-keer-ee, har-uh-,
> har-ee-] –noun
> 1. Also called seppuku. ceremonial suicide by ripping open the abdomen
> with a dagger or knife: formerly practiced in Japan by members of the
> warrior class when disgraced or sentenced to death. 2. suicide or any
> suicidal action; a self-destructive act: political hara-kiri.
> Also, hari kari.
Seppuku Chicken is one of my fave dishes.
In article <elmop-C3DE4D.18052026112…@nothing.attdns.com>, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el…@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>In article <pan.2009.11.26.18.51.48.986…@e86.GTS>,
> Hachiroku ÉnÉ`ÉçÉN <Tru…@e86.GTS> wrote:
>> A member of the Toyoda family
>> has already stepped in and replaced the President of Toyota Motor, who was
>> asked to step down due to Toyota’s recent quality problems, and has
>> probably already committed Hari Kari.
>He’s dead.
>Maybe you mean harakiri?
seppeku is the correct name.
the other is stupid slang.
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:32:16 -0800, phaeton wrote:
> On Nov 26, 5:25 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru…@e86.GTS> wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:05:20 -0500, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> > In article <pan.2009.11.26.18.51.48.986…@e86.GTS>, Hachiroku
>> > ÉnÉ`ÉçÉN <Tru…@e86.GTS> wrote:
>> >> A member of the Toyoda family
>> >> has already stepped in and replaced the President of Toyota Motor,
>> >> who was asked to step down due to Toyota’s recent quality problems,
>> >> and has probably already committed Hari Kari.
>> > He’s dead.
>> > Maybe you mean harakiri?
>> ha⋅ra-ki⋅ri
>> /ˈhɑrəˈkɪəri, ˈhærə-, ˈhæri-/ [hahr-uh-keer-ee,
>> har-uh-, har-ee-] –noun
>> 1. Also called seppuku. ceremonial suicide by ripping open the
>> abdomen with a dagger or knife: formerly practiced in Japan by members
>> of the warrior class when disgraced or sentenced to death. 2. suicide
>> or any suicidal action; a self-destructive act: political hara-kiri.
>> Also, hari kari.
> Seppuku Chicken is one of my fave dishes.
Chicken guts?!?!?!
"john" <johngd…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>November 26, 2009
>Howes: Toyota not looking so shiny now
>DANIEL HOWES
>Is the Toyota Motor Corp. juggernaut losing its conqueror-of-the-world
>mojo?
>Because if it was a Detroit automaker that was recalling 4.26 million
>vehicles to repair accelerator problems, or if it was a Detroit
>automaker that had broken its historic no-plant-closings pledge, or if
>it was a Detroit automaker that had recalled more vehicles (2.38
>million) in 2005 than it sold in the United States that year (2.26
>million), the answer would be an emphatic yes.
-
So what do you propose? Buy a GM car instead of a Toyota?
<snort>
In article <elmop-3BCE6A.19333226112…@nothing.attdns.com>, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el…@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>In article <osEPm.272817$Jp1.81…@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com>,
> some…@some.domain (some…@some.domain) wrote:
>> >Maybe you mean harakiri?
>> seppeku is the correct name.
>> the other is stupid slang.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harakiri
>The most famous form of seppuku is also known as harakiri (yÅ Rä0,
>"cutting the belly") and is written with the same kanji as seppuku but
>in reverse order with an okurigana. In Japanese, the more formal
>seppuku, a Chinese on’yomi reading, is typically used in writing, while
>harakiri, a native kun’yomi reading, is used in speech.
exactly, "common useage" for the peasants.
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:13:00 -0800, Wayne wrote:
> "john" <johngd…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2cdea3ae-02f4-4315-a3f7-64b2a1b254b6@15g2000prz.googlegroups.com…
>>November 26, 2009
>>Howes: Toyota not looking so shiny now DANIEL HOWES
>>Is the Toyota Motor Corp. juggernaut losing its conqueror-of-the-world
>>mojo?
>>Because if it was a Detroit automaker that was recalling 4.26 million
>>vehicles to repair accelerator problems, or if it was a Detroit automaker
>>that had broken its historic no-plant-closings pledge, or if it was a
>>Detroit automaker that had recalled more vehicles (2.38 million) in 2005
>>than it sold in the United States that year (2.26 million), the answer
>>would be an emphatic yes.
> –
> So what do you propose? Buy a GM car instead of a Toyota? <snort>
Regardless of problems, I think Toyota will be around for a LONG time to
make good on their cars.
I’m giving GM to the end of the year. THIS year…
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Wayne wrote:
> "john" <johngd…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2cdea3ae-02f4-4315-a3f7-64b2a1b254b6@15g2000prz.googlegroups.com…
>> November 26, 2009
>> Howes: Toyota not looking so shiny now
>> DANIEL HOWES
>> Is the Toyota Motor Corp. juggernaut losing its conqueror-of-the-world
>> mojo?
>> Because if it was a Detroit automaker that was recalling 4.26 million
>> vehicles to repair accelerator problems, or if it was a Detroit
>> automaker that had broken its historic no-plant-closings pledge, or if
>> it was a Detroit automaker that had recalled more vehicles (2.38
>> million) in 2005 than it sold in the United States that year (2.26
>> million), the answer would be an emphatic yes.
> –
> So what do you propose? Buy a GM car instead of a Toyota?
> <snort>
Now that Toyota is giving away the dealer scan tool, I would get a GM
instead? Ha!
<some…@some.domain> wrote in message
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> In article
> <d9b14ab6-de86-4e4b-9b0f-b323f98f7…@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> phaeton <blahbleh…@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> This isn’t new, either, suggesting that Toyota’s troubles may be more
>>> of a developing pattern than a one-time aberration. Two years ago,
>>> before two-thirds of Detroit’s automakers were tempered by the fires
>>> of bankruptcy, the editor of the ostensibly "Japanese-loving" Consumer
>>> Reports apologized to readers for recommending the problem-plagued
>>> Camry V-6.
>>> He also said the magazine had decided new Toyota models could no
>>> longer be given the benefit of the doubt — or its prized
>>> "recommended" label. And Toyota’s V-8 powered Tundra four-wheel drive
>>> pickup was labeled "unreliable" by the magazine, the unofficial Bible
>>> to discerning car and truck buyers.
>>I always take everything Consumer Reports says with a grain of salt.
> yeah, a 50 mile square grain.
I have my own theory about Consumer Reports Ratings, when the ratings are a
reflection of public response – who responds to the typical survey? Who
writes letter to the editor? Who calls a corporate complaint/compliment
line? Those who are not happy. So, in my own little not so humble opinion,
CR public response ratings are skewed to the negative.
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z…@tink.net wrote:
> <some…@some.domain> wrote in message
> news:%8CPm.279529$Jp1.66565@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com…
>> In article
>> <d9b14ab6-de86-4e4b-9b0f-b323f98f7…@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
>> phaeton <blahbleh…@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> This isn’t new, either, suggesting that Toyota’s troubles may be more
>>>> of a developing pattern than a one-time aberration. Two years ago,
>>>> before two-thirds of Detroit’s automakers were tempered by the fires
>>>> of bankruptcy, the editor of the ostensibly "Japanese-loving" Consumer
>>>> Reports apologized to readers for recommending the problem-plagued
>>>> Camry V-6.
>>>> He also said the magazine had decided new Toyota models could no
>>>> longer be given the benefit of the doubt — or its prized
>>>> "recommended" label. And Toyota’s V-8 powered Tundra four-wheel drive
>>>> pickup was labeled "unreliable" by the magazine, the unofficial Bible
>>>> to discerning car and truck buyers.
>>> I always take everything Consumer Reports says with a grain of salt.
>> yeah, a 50 mile square grain.
> I have my own theory about Consumer Reports Ratings, when the ratings
> are a reflection of public response – who responds to the typical
> survey? Who writes letter to the editor? Who calls a corporate
> complaint/compliment line? Those who are not happy. So, in my own
> little not so humble opinion, CR public response ratings are skewed to
> the negative.
I know that they have always excoriated VW, which I don’t understand.
But my dad still reads it, and he told me that the new A5 chassis Rabbit
actually got good marks?
My mom has been driving VWs (only two of them!) since 1989 or so… I
just hope that they decide to buy a new car before the 1.8T she’s
driving now is run into the ground. I love that car…
nate
–
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
http://members.cox.net/njnagel
jealous you can’t afford to purchase a TOYOTA? HA HA HA HA
"Hachiroku ????" <Tru…@e86.GTS> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:13:00 -0800, Wayne wrote:
>> "john" <johngd…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:2cdea3ae-02f4-4315-a3f7-64b2a1b254b6@15g2000prz.googlegroups.com…
>>>November 26, 2009
>>>Howes: Toyota not looking so shiny now DANIEL HOWES
>>>Is the Toyota Motor Corp. juggernaut losing its conqueror-of-the-world
>>>mojo?
>>>Because if it was a Detroit automaker that was recalling 4.26 million
>>>vehicles to repair accelerator problems, or if it was a Detroit automaker
>>>that had broken its historic no-plant-closings pledge, or if it was a
>>>Detroit automaker that had recalled more vehicles (2.38 million) in 2005
>>>than it sold in the United States that year (2.26 million), the answer
>>>would be an emphatic yes.
>> –
>> So what do you propose? Buy a GM car instead of a Toyota? <snort>
> Regardless of problems, I think Toyota will be around for a LONG time to
> make good on their cars.
> I’m giving GM to the end of the year. THIS year…
Exactly…GM is nothing but government welfare for the auto workers union.
Making cars is not on their radar.
I’ve owned two GM vehicles, a Corvette and a Suburban, that were such pieces
of crap, I seriously considered driving them off a cliff.
In article <elmop-D36398.08301227112…@nothing.attdns.com>, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el…@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
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>In article <KUFPm.280001$Jp1.233…@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com>,
> some…@some.domain (some…@some.domain) wrote:
>> >> >Maybe you mean harakiri?
>> >> seppeku is the correct name.
>> >> the other is stupid slang.
>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harakiri
>> >The most famous form of seppuku is also known as harakiri (yÅ Rä0,
>> >"cutting the belly") and is written with the same kanji as seppuku but
>> >in reverse order with an okurigana. In Japanese, the more formal
>> >seppuku, a Chinese on’yomi reading, is typically used in writing, while
>> >harakiri, a native kun’yomi reading, is used in speech.
>> exactly, "common useage" for the peasants.
>doesn’t say that at all.
>I think your mom is calling you upstairs for dinner.
typical no nothing attempt to assert pretend authority.
you have no mother, you reproduced from fusion like all bacteria.
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><some…@some.domain> wrote in message
>news:%8CPm.279529$Jp1.66565@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com…
>> In article
>> <d9b14ab6-de86-4e4b-9b0f-b323f98f7…@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
>> phaeton <blahbleh…@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> This isn’t new, either, suggesting that Toyota’s troubles may be more
>>>> of a developing pattern than a one-time aberration. Two years ago,
>>>> before two-thirds of Detroit’s automakers were tempered by the fires
>>>> of bankruptcy, the editor of the ostensibly "Japanese-loving" Consumer
>>>> Reports apologized to readers for recommending the problem-plagued
>>>> Camry V-6.
>>>> He also said the magazine had decided new Toyota models could no
>>>> longer be given the benefit of the doubt — or its prized
>>>> "recommended" label. And Toyota’s V-8 powered Tundra four-wheel drive
>>>> pickup was labeled "unreliable" by the magazine, the unofficial Bible
>>>> to discerning car and truck buyers.
>>>I always take everything Consumer Reports says with a grain of salt.
>> yeah, a 50 mile square grain.
>I have my own theory about Consumer Reports Ratings, when the ratings are a
>reflection of public response – who responds to the typical survey? Who
>writes letter to the editor? Who calls a corporate complaint/compliment
>line? Those who are not happy. So, in my own little not so humble opinion,
>CR public response ratings are skewed to the negative.
tree huggers and hippys.
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:01:09 -0800, Wayne wrote:
> I’ve owned two GM vehicles, a Corvette and a Suburban, that were such
> pieces of crap, I seriously considered driving them off a cliff.
Hmmm…I think I’d give the Vette some slack…I have an ’88 Supra that
needs a fair amount of attention, but it starts, runs, steers and stops,
and looks good doing it, and it’s such a BLAST to drive I don’t mind a
weekend in the back yard up on jack stands and a tool kit!
Of course, it’s 21 years old and +200,000 miles…
In article <pan.2009.11.27.17.38.50.848…@e86.GTS>, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Tru…@e86.GTS> wrote:
>On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:01:09 -0800, Wayne wrote:
>> I’ve owned two GM vehicles, a Corvette and a Suburban, that were such
>> pieces of crap, I seriously considered driving them off a cliff.
>Hmmm…I think I’d give the Vette some slack…I have an ’88 Supra that
>needs a fair amount of attention, but it starts, runs, steers and stops,
>and looks good doing it, and it’s such a BLAST to drive I don’t mind a
>weekend in the back yard up on jack stands and a tool kit!
>Of course, it’s 21 years old and +200,000 miles…
i have an 86 1/2 with 200k and it really is fun. it’s my all time fave, after
34+ others. it has some quirks but it always runs and passes smog tests.
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:25:59 +0000, some…@some.domain wrote:
> In article <pan.2009.11.27.17.38.50.848…@e86.GTS>,
> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Tru…@e86.GTS> wrote:
>>On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:01:09 -0800, Wayne wrote:
>>> I’ve owned two GM vehicles, a Corvette and a Suburban, that were such
>>> pieces of crap, I seriously considered driving them off a cliff.
>>Hmmm…I think I’d give the Vette some slack…I have an ’88 Supra that
>>needs a fair amount of attention, but it starts, runs, steers and stops,
>>and looks good doing it, and it’s such a BLAST to drive I don’t mind a
>>weekend in the back yard up on jack stands and a tool kit!
>>Of course, it’s 21 years old and +200,000 miles…
> i have an 86 1/2 with 200k and it really is fun. it’s my all time fave,
> after 34+ others. it has some quirks but it always runs and passes smog
> tests.
No more Smog tests in Mass, and the guys at the inspection station like it
and know I’ll fix anything that goes wrong. However, they wouldn’t pass
the ball joints this year. Only ran it for 6 weeks after replacing the
BJs. Do you have a Sport Roof? It shakes a bit with the roof off, but on a
sunny day at 85 degrees and 70MPH, who cares? ;)
In article <pan.2009.11.27.18.51.26.292…@e86.GTS>, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Tru…@e86.GTS> wrote:
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>On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:25:59 +0000, some…@some.domain wrote:
>> In article <pan.2009.11.27.17.38.50.848…@e86.GTS>,
>> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Tru…@e86.GTS> wrote:
>>>On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:01:09 -0800, Wayne wrote:
>>>> I’ve owned two GM vehicles, a Corvette and a Suburban, that were such
>>>> pieces of crap, I seriously considered driving them off a cliff.
>>>Hmmm…I think I’d give the Vette some slack…I have an ’88 Supra that
>>>needs a fair amount of attention, but it starts, runs, steers and stops,
>>>and looks good doing it, and it’s such a BLAST to drive I don’t mind a
>>>weekend in the back yard up on jack stands and a tool kit!
>>>Of course, it’s 21 years old and +200,000 miles…
>> i have an 86 1/2 with 200k and it really is fun. it’s my all time fave,
>> after 34+ others. it has some quirks but it always runs and passes smog
>> tests.
>No more Smog tests in Mass, and the guys at the inspection station like it
>and know I’ll fix anything that goes wrong. However, they wouldn’t pass
>the ball joints this year. Only ran it for 6 weeks after replacing the
>BJs. Do you have a Sport Roof? It shakes a bit with the roof off, but on a
>sunny day at 85 degrees and 70MPH, who cares? ;)
no more smog in the people’s rebublic of ma? damn. i was a boston boy for 28
years and last inspection was in 02. they really checked it over and smogged
it to death. the only thing wrong was one of the license lights was out. the
others worked but they still replaced it before i got my sticker.
i have the plain roof, no turbo model. everything still works, even the ac and
cruise.
man, i love my supra. all the hispanic boys in town want it. i get 2-3 offers
a week.
On Nov 27, 2:11 pm, some…@some.domain (some…@some.domain) wrote:
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> In article <pan.2009.11.27.18.51.26.292…@e86.GTS>, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Tru…@e86.GTS> wrote:
> >On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:25:59 +0000, some…@some.domain wrote:
> >> In article <pan.2009.11.27.17.38.50.848…@e86.GTS>,
> >> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Tru…@e86.GTS> wrote:
> >>>On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:01:09 -0800, Wayne wrote:
> >>>> I’ve owned two GM vehicles, a Corvette and a Suburban, that were such
> >>>> pieces of crap, I seriously considered driving them off a cliff.
> >>>Hmmm…I think I’d give the Vette some slack…I have an ’88 Supra that
> >>>needs a fair amount of attention, but it starts, runs, steers and stops,
> >>>and looks good doing it, and it’s such a BLAST to drive I don’t mind a
> >>>weekend in the back yard up on jack stands and a tool kit!
> >>>Of course, it’s 21 years old and +200,000 miles…
> >> i have an 86 1/2 with 200k and it really is fun. it’s my all time fave,
> >> after 34+ others. it has some quirks but it always runs and passes smog
> >> tests.
> >No more Smog tests in Mass, and the guys at the inspection station like it
> >and know I’ll fix anything that goes wrong. However, they wouldn’t pass
> >the ball joints this year. Only ran it for 6 weeks after replacing the
> >BJs. Do you have a Sport Roof? It shakes a bit with the roof off, but on a
> >sunny day at 85 degrees and 70MPH, who cares? ;)
> no more smog in the people’s rebublic of ma? –
Don’t rag on him for living with his mother. That’s my job. :0)